Moon Kitten
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:09:00 -
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Jason1138 wrote:"Harassment via in game mechanics is fine*, meta harassment is not."
giving out a toon's name is in game by definition though, right?
if he gave out the guy's real life name and phone number then obviously that's wrong but to sit there and say "this guy (toon's name) is dumb, ********, a crybaby, etc, go mess with him in game until he cries/kills himself/quits the game, etc" is something we've all seen thousands of times
in fact, it is all but the stated purpose for the game's existence.
This is what I never understood about this fuss. He gave out a -character- name. He did not give any personal information out. He gave out a character name and told people to go **** with him. Maybe he did it awkwardly and offensively but there was never any intent for griefing of "wis" to be taken out of the game. Mittani was suggesting he be messed with -within- the confines of Eve.
Obviously I'm more likely to give Mittens the benefit of the doubt than people that hate him but to me it always felt like he intended it to mean "**** with these players" not "**** with these real life people". I personally prefer to separate real life and the game so if someone (especially a stranger) sends me a long evemail with personal details I will try my best to treat it like something in game and not some truthful statements about a real life person because I have no context by which to judge it in that light. As a result I would think nothing about replying to an evemail about depression with "just kill yourself." Hell, who hasn't self-destructed within the game before?
I just feel like his punishment would have been deserved if he had given out an email address or said "Hey this guy is 34 years old, lives with his mother, and is a massive nerd". Instead he made fun of an in game message, in a forum about the game it was received in, and gave out his in game character.
I do understand that the only reason it's taken seriously is the CCP policy of assuming anything relating to suicide is automatically understood in an out of game context for safety, but did Mittani know that? I didn't, until the events of this, and it would never have crossed my mind that saying "I cannot believe you won't reimburse my mission ship, I've had enough and this is the final straw, I'm going to kill myself because why continue?" to a GM in a petition would be seen as an actual real world cry for help. But then that's because I assume things in the game are in the game and not otherwise. I see nothing wrong with telling someone -in game- that I am suicidal because they are holding me ransom in the hope they feel soft and let me go.
I think that's the crux of my disappointment with the handling of this, combined with the nullification of my votes completely. Like most people in Goonfleet this doesn't make me feel like unsubscribing because most of us understand that the real world is tricky and just because someone makes a decision you disagree with and think is idiotic doesn't make them a terrible person or mean you should quit in a huff. |